In this episode, we welcome Barbara Born, chief scientist at Todos Pela Educação, for a conversation about the National Teacher Exam (PND)—known as the “Enem for Teachers”—and its potential impact on teacher training and the recognition of the teaching profession in Brazil.

Throughout the interview, Barbara analyzes how the National Teacher Certification Exam (PND) can raise the standards for teacher selection, influence the quality of teacher-training programs, and better align initial teacher education with the real needs of school systems. She also discusses the relationship between the PND and the National Education Assessment (ENADE), as well as changes in the evaluation of pedagogical and practical competencies.